WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Sven Roeder 1:53 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
As cruel and unfortunate as it often is the piss-taking of politicians as odd etc is usually only reflecting the general public mood.
If it didn't have a ring of truth to it it wouldn't resonate.
Politicians like Thatcher and Blair had their act nailed down and played it perfectly.
Others didn't and the personal criticism comes to both sides ..... ie
Kinnock .... ginger windbag
Hague .... down with the kids in his baseball cap and drinking 14 pints on his pub rounds. 'Karate' with Seb Coe before back off to his 'wife'
Brown .... angry bullying and probably mentally ill
IDS ... the 'quiet man' ... Pardon? Insipid to the point of invisibility
etc etc

BRANDED 1:49 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
One emmmm

BRANDED 1:47 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Would you buy insurance from a bloke who looks like a tramp?
Immage has always been essential in all walks of life. Immage on its own is of course hollow.

Oh dear 1:42 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
It was a Pea-coat Far Cough, probably fashioned from the finished Melton Wool, very stylish and cool for a walk in the forest or a Sunday lunchtime session in the pub, not the Cenotaph though.

A dark coloured Covert or King Coat is more appropriate.

Anyway, everyone is arguing which of two colossal cunts is the bigger cunt. Don't think for one fucking moment either are anything else.

I bet they both wear the right coat on Sunday though

stewie griffin 1:33 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Yes, Debs son, but piss taking of politicians for the way they look and sound has been around since Spitting Image, so it's not like it's some new phenomenon.

The only one who was ever elected on the basis of being 'cool', thereby turning elections into an X Factor style opoularity contest, is Blair. And I didn't imagine any of the people whinging about the media ehaviour when it was Hague that was being mocked and Blair lauded.

Funny that, double standards from that lot.

Darlo Debs 1:23 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Didn't the Saatchi's help reinvent Thatcher though Stew?

Far Cough 1:15 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Didn't Foot once turn up at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Day, with a donkey jacket

stewie griffin 1:13 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Darlo Debs 1:04 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis


Since BLAIR and all his D-REAM & 'Cool Britannia' bollocks. Inviting the Gallaghers around for dinner, pretending to like football, all whilst lying through his teeth about anything of any substance.

Evil fucking cunt.

riosleftsock 1:08 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
(.Y.)

cholo 1:08 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
To be fair Michael Foot did look like he'd been caught in an explosion at a charity shop.

Darlo Debs 1:07 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
yeah I can't remember it being so vitriolic before that time, you are probably right.

riosleftsock 1:06 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Debs

For me it probably started with the way Michael Foot was always ridiculed in the press and by the Conservatives mainly because of how he looked.

Darlo Debs 1:04 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
When did our politics and election campaigns etc become so presidential in nature? Didn't it used to be about the message of the party that counted above the overall perceived [personality of the party leaders. Or has ir never really been like that?

Fifth Column 12:53 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
It's 51% right and very right.

Not much centre there.

BRANDED 12:45 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Thats 51% centre right init?

alphaharps 12:40 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
ha ha great poll, how long before UKIP pass the Cons in a poll

riosleftsock 12:33 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Fifth Column 12:17 Fri Nov 7

Spot on. Would prefer a more mature debate on this using useful statistics and not the crap sent out form party hq.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:30 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
SLC 10:33 Fri Nov 7

You should look at today's Survation poll if you want a real hoot.

Lab 31
Con 27
UKIP 24
Lib Dem 9

Fuck knows what sort of parliament that would produce.

Mr T. 12:29 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
This could actually set up Ed Miliband nicely for the run in to the election. With the advent of TV debates, expectations for him will be so low that he will only have to land the mereist of punches to be considered to have over-performed.

A real poverty of political leadership in this country at the moment though.

Fifth Column 12:24 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
Unless there are Labour UKIP defections which seems unlikely to me then the Labour MPs won't seek to get rid of Milliband before the election. One reason is that actually most like him as a person, as an individual. He's a nice bloke. The issue many have is with his competence... but the lack of personal animosity towards him means there are fewer people eager to stitch him up. Also, many think that in terms of policies they agree with him but that under his 'leadership' the party has no... well no leadership.

Fifth Column 12:17 Fri Nov 7
Re: Ed Miliband Leadership Crisis
After 8

Further to your comment yesterday, I actually think having a published pie chart showing where funding goes is a good idea.

The disgusting thing is that the government is deliberately using dodgy stats which imply that 25% of government funding is on feckless unemployed which is the clear reason for them undertaking this exercise in the first place. If the pie chart showed public sector pensions, benefits for pensioners, supplementary payments like tax credits for the working poor and then unemployment benefit.

That would actually be useful information. The way it's set out is clearly to just to further demonise anyone receiving support from the state and take the eye of the public off the Tories' own tax evading cunt mates.

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